The Movies

Hello colorForth community. I have started a YouTube account and have begun uploading movies about colorForth. Please see at your convenience http://Youtube.com/Raystm2 . The current series is called C.MooreMath or see more math.  It is a programming example in real time using the editor and covering many topics of colorForth interest.

 

Eventually all of the colored Forths are to be covered in detail. Should take litterally years to accomplish.

The process of getting permissions to use information from the appropriate sources goes well. Much success so far. Still have a few to ask.

Suggestions and constructive critique is well received. Please, if you have an issue that you would like to see explored do make me aware. If I have run ruff shod over something that needs more discussion… Also, if you would like to include anything, or use the material in anyway, this is your permission to do so.

 

Thanks again for the interest and I hope you enjoy the movies.

Ray

Rainbow Forth

Rainbow Forth is an implementation of the colorForth dialect of the Forth programming language designed to run natively under Linux or Windows.

http://rainbowforth.sourceforge.net/

Forth Day Notes

See: http://jasondamisch.net/forth/forth-day.html

Forth Day 2008

See: http://www.forth.org/svfig/next.html

Silicon Design, Forth Chip Preorder

See: http://ecommerce.silicondesigneu.com/ordering/product_info.php?products_id=63

Minimum quanity: 900

Hi all, Ray’s at the local library.

Hi everybody! Sorry about being so scarce. The HardDrive finally bit it. I took one out of one of my other computers and loaded a ubuntu. Before I could get it all configured, my cable cut me off for the bill. I may be able to get back up by October. If not, I’ll see you all from the Public Library, like today.

I walked longer today then any other day in the two or three years before, since the sickness took me and I nearly died at work. I’ve been building up to it over the last few weeks. I was expecting to have to use the library, so I “trained” for it.

Colorado is a beautiful place. Much more climate then Fort Worth, Texas. People actually get out of there houses here and they bike and walk and take the local transportation everywhere. My kids have never seen such a community. It was either too hot or too cold for my kids to even go outside most days of the year. They are really enjoying the move.

I just have a about a minute left here… I was just wishing to touch base. I have an answer for North’s last post. I have a list of what has been done with colorForth and what to be impressed with. I’ll bring that up here one afternoon and post it online from the library.

Until then

Ray

What is the most substantial PC based colorForth app to date?

Don’t get me wrong — I don’t think the purpose of colorForth or its future should have anything to do with PCs.  However, presently I do not have access to Forth based hardware to run colorForth on.  Chuckmoore’s VSLI apps aside, what is the most substantial program that has been written for colorForth on the PC?

Calm down. Come down and COMM down.

Calm down. Come down and COMM down.

Filling the needs of helping potential colorCoders is a little like having the job of testing for neutrinos. You know they are out there, but you hardly ever run into one.

When ‘you’ do get a request, they normally come in two forms.
The first form is a bit like asking a customer if the machine is plugged in. No disgrace here. Read no malice. What I mean is that most people have read the documentation and still have this problem in one form or another.

So, what is that problem? Have you had it and guessed ahead of me?

“I don’t seem to be getting it to work as I expected” said the person on the other end of the line.
Or maybe it’s… “It’s running but it crashes every time I enter/execute something. ”

It’s that keyboard. The Dvorak-like one. The person has read that the keyboard works a particular way. They read that the thing has two graphical character boards and two number boards. They read how those boards are reached. Still, they do not seem to register that factiod and crash trying to enter code. Maybe they got past that hurdle okay, but loading and executing the new code crashes. This is normally in the form of a new person trying a math statment as his maiden voyage and using the graphical numbers rather then the number numbers.

From experience helping some of you over the years, I can tell you that typically, the load code and explode mode happens because most brand new people to try colorForth do not register that the numbers on the graphic keyboard are just that, graphics and not numbers in the sense of mathematical digits.

I am of the thought that a FAQ of colorForth should make that issue number one. Answer that first. Remind the new user/abuser colorChooser that ‘what is where’ on what keyboard.

Jeff Fox’s keyboard/editor description page is most likely the clearest, easiest to understand. I would point someone there, if they had this question. It could use a slight update for colorForth2.0a.

The second form is a little tougher and it has to do more with hardware. The display.

It used to be said that there is/was another hardware problem. The floppy drive. I don’t usually get requests for that problem. I assume it is because that people are trying as many colorForths as they can find and stop on one that boots. That fixes the floppy problems. To ‘really’ fix those floppy problems, it might be nice for us at the wiki to have a place to provide optional code known to boot from floppy.

Something similar for display. Combinations of both.

To that end, I will be bringing up some links for all kinds of hardware configured colorForths. This could be made a bit of an easier project if I can request the kernels and the machines that they run on from as many people that read this and care to share. From this point forward even until the end of time, send it. From that we can get some sort of concensus as to what is working and what is not. I have time to look over all of that information and compile it. I shall begin reading the old mailing-list posts as well, for all kinds of subjects, that one included.

COMM Down. I do not mean that there is a communications break down. I mean more like “come to the hoe down down town and get on down with your bad self”. Get some conversation going. :-)

There are some communications things we can consider as a group. We can have multi-person voice and text chats. The new thing to try is that Skype. Anyone wanting to colaborate in real time could use that. It could be used for a monthy or semi-anually, or what ever time frame, get together. Cheaper then really getting to gather together with out getting to gather together. Maybe we can have a cFig-world meeting with papers and everything. Each one of us presenting, giving a presentation and then fielding questions, live and in living colorForth.

Thanks Dr. Nick Maroudas for sending that tutorial on PCI. Find it at wiki, Getting Started page, colorForth 1 applications link. You can see that I’m experiemting with a way to compare blocks of various peoples versions of colorForth. Every colorForth out there is potentially different from every other one. A way to recognise easily how a colorForth should be interpreted by author and the subsequent developers list of contributors.

I suppose if you are, lets say sending code to this group, then it is a potentially different colorForth than every other one in the world and requires proper identification.

Thank you, reader…

I really wish to express my gratitude to those of you that have been following along. From the response I’ve been getting I can extrapolate those number ( singular hehe ) into the multitudes and throngs of you that have not as yet taken time, or have no necessity to drop me and the community a message now and again.

Besides being a great thing for my ego, you have provided me with something to do that I can feel good about. It is a distinct pleasure being the colorMouth of the colorForth community. It gives me reason to rise each and every day, and real work to accomplish. YOU give me this. I thank you!

Ray’s-okay!ole!

Optimal Optimism!

Hey, gang! Ray here with some more news you can use, and some you can not.

From the can not file:
I found much data. I had purchased one of those SanDisk usb memory chips and had all of my browsers ( IE7, FireFox, Opera) Bookmarks in it. This is great for me because I kept bookmarks on much things that I have downloaded in the past. This fact will go well for me finding much of any applications and tools that I have lost.

Also in the SanDisk Cruzer Micro 2GB was my file for colorForth For Windows from Roman Pavlyuk. It goes back a few months. Much of what has changed since then will be easily incorporated. ChuckBot has zoom at this point but it’s not nearly as sexy as the way it worked most recently.
I still have yet to look into my removed backups drive.

Habit, and choice of tools have worked infavor for me again. I use Gmail for my public correspondance and having done so means that I still have everything any of you have sent me, somewhere on a Gmail server. Looks like I’ll be looking thru that list, long and hard.

So, maybe not such a disaster after all. Things look much better from the perspective of a HDD then went from 6% empty to 33% full. Room to breath and do things over.

From what you might could use file:

Back a post or two I introduced you to Jean-François, from France, and that his Mandlebrot/Julia Sets application would be featured at the wiki.
It’s under the colorCoder link of the Getting_Started page and of course it’s under his own name.
http://forthworks.com/c4th/doku.php?id=jef

I had made an html version of his code for him. I do not really know if he had one already, just sent him one and the tools I use to create it. At the wiki, it is cut to show the 18/19 block pair and then from 144 on thru Jean-François code, then into Jean’s presentation of the Mandlebrot by Mark Slicker we are all familure with. Jean modernized it for the new colorForth2.0a.

Other authors can expect to find code in that section as I go.

Poke around the wiki. I’ve been adding things here and there. More to follow…

Ray

Opinions? Anyone? Well, everyone, actually.

An Overview page now exists at the wiki.

http://forthworks.com/c4th/doku.php?id=anoverview

I hope users will add their own overviews. I will be adding more as I run across them. Mention what you want there and I will get it in.

I’m slowly recovering from my crash. Taking my time about it, I will weigh every download, every tool. If you have favorite tools that you use while working in colorForth, let me know and there will be a page about it. OR add that page yourself. :-) I would like to know about your tools because, chances are, you may have something i’ve never tried. I’d like to say that I’ve got a at least a little experience with all such things related to this environment. I’ll most likely ask this question to the mailinglist and maybe I will get answers. I hope so.

Your opinions count…
Ray